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		<title>By: Online</title>
		<link>http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/design-careers/a-little-respect/#comment-124664</link>
		<dc:creator>Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have respect for what you all do, really.I had to fight for anything that I wanted. Most of the people that I worked with did not understand what I did and how it was effecting them. But now i live. Thank's</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have respect for what you all do, really.I had to fight for anything that I wanted. Most of the people that I worked with did not understand what I did and how it was effecting them. But now i live. Thank&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Costello</title>
		<link>http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/design-careers/a-little-respect/#comment-112288</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Costello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen this at every job I have work at. We think we are finished with a project and are ready to move on, then 4 or 5 revisions of the final are thrown back at us... and we still have to meet the delivery deadline.

The editors, marketing people, and the VP have all the time they need to infuse their opinions and make their changes, but the designers are always the ones that get pressed up against the deadline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen this at every job I have work at. We think we are finished with a project and are ready to move on, then 4 or 5 revisions of the final are thrown back at us&#8230; and we still have to meet the delivery deadline.</p>
<p>The editors, marketing people, and the VP have all the time they need to infuse their opinions and make their changes, but the designers are always the ones that get pressed up against the deadline.</p>
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		<title>By: Seo blog</title>
		<link>http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/design-careers/a-little-respect/#comment-112248</link>
		<dc:creator>Seo blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A team we put together for a project in Manchester, UK, are just finishing a video led web portal…Suddenly everyone is crawling out of the woodwork wanting their say. It’s the end of the damn project! Weeks of work which you now want to change!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A team we put together for a project in Manchester, UK, are just finishing a video led web portal…Suddenly everyone is crawling out of the woodwork wanting their say. It’s the end of the damn project! Weeks of work which you now want to change!!</p>
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		<title>By: Comment on A Little Respect by paul flohr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comment on A Little Respect by paul flohr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jordan Fischer wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptI spent five years of my life studying visual communication and design. If someone thinks they know better, I just ask them to explain the reasons for there decision. Then, without being arrogant(?difficult?) explain WHY they are wrong. &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jordan Fischer wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptI spent five years of my life studying visual communication and design. If someone thinks they know better, I just ask them to explain the reasons for there decision. Then, without being arrogant(?difficult?) explain WHY they are wrong. &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: paul flohr</title>
		<link>http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/design-careers/a-little-respect/#comment-28041</link>
		<dc:creator>paul flohr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's so good to hear of others' similar experiences. After two leaving two jobs for the same reason, I have finally decided to battle along the freelance path. 

A team we put together for a project in Manchester, UK, are just finishing a video led web portal...Suddenly everyone is crawling out of the woodwork wanting their say. It's the end of the damn project! Weeks of work which you now want to change!! 

I was hoping that it would be different, as someone has taken us on to do this job. How naive! But I have realised that for every fool who thinks they know your job better than you, there are five more telling you what a stunning job you've done. Unfortunately, they aren't paying us!

My confidence in my ability has grown. And I will not let it be shaken by these people. 

I spent five years of my life studying visual communication and design. If someone thinks they know better, I just ask them to explain the reasons for there decision. Then, without being arrogant(?difficult?) explain WHY they are wrong. WHY I know better. If you have to blind them with science, so be it. 
We all need to compromise.

If you can keep your own self respect and get paid, you're onto a winner!

Not as easy as it sounds....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so good to hear of others&#8217; similar experiences. After two leaving two jobs for the same reason, I have finally decided to battle along the freelance path. </p>
<p>A team we put together for a project in Manchester, UK, are just finishing a video led web portal&#8230;Suddenly everyone is crawling out of the woodwork wanting their say. It&#8217;s the end of the damn project! Weeks of work which you now want to change!! </p>
<p>I was hoping that it would be different, as someone has taken us on to do this job. How naive! But I have realised that for every fool who thinks they know your job better than you, there are five more telling you what a stunning job you&#8217;ve done. Unfortunately, they aren&#8217;t paying us!</p>
<p>My confidence in my ability has grown. And I will not let it be shaken by these people. </p>
<p>I spent five years of my life studying visual communication and design. If someone thinks they know better, I just ask them to explain the reasons for there decision. Then, without being arrogant(?difficult?) explain WHY they are wrong. WHY I know better. If you have to blind them with science, so be it.<br />
We all need to compromise.</p>
<p>If you can keep your own self respect and get paid, you&#8217;re onto a winner!</p>
<p>Not as easy as it sounds&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Hylas Ipsum</title>
		<link>http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/design-careers/a-little-respect/#comment-26972</link>
		<dc:creator>Hylas Ipsum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 03:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

Ready,Set,Go!:

http://www.diwan.com/ready/prsg.htm

I'm only half kidding.
My Wife's the design "Rock Star", I'm just the Systems Administrator and handle all the "other stuff".
I'm great with the OSs, printers, set ups and color correction, etc., but can barely resize a image file correctly.
:-)

She's been doing this since the origial Macintosh, and yes, they wowed everyone back then, but there was still plenty of paste up going on.

I have respect for what you all do, really.
Though I do take solace in watching her and her crew trying to set up network printer. (We all have our strengths.)

Our shop has everything from the aforementioned Mac Plus all the way to the new Core 2 Duos ... running.

Oh, and the LaserWriter NTX is now upgraded to a IIg.

It's a lot of fun when someone emails they have a QuarkXpress 3 document and remarks how impossible it would be to deal with it and she says, "yeah, we can handle that".


Mac Plus/SE

http://www.jagshouse.com/macplus.html

http://oldmac.toddverbeek.com:8012/faq.html


As Servers:

http://www.ld8.org/servers/


Mactracker:

http://mactracker.dreamhosters.com/


Nice article.

hylas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>Ready,Set,Go!:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.diwan.com/ready/prsg.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.diwan.com/ready/prsg.htm</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m only half kidding.<br />
My Wife&#8217;s the design &#8220;Rock Star&#8221;, I&#8217;m just the Systems Administrator and handle all the &#8220;other stuff&#8221;.<br />
I&#8217;m great with the OSs, printers, set ups and color correction, etc., but can barely resize a image file correctly.<br />
:-)</p>
<p>She&#8217;s been doing this since the origial Macintosh, and yes, they wowed everyone back then, but there was still plenty of paste up going on.</p>
<p>I have respect for what you all do, really.<br />
Though I do take solace in watching her and her crew trying to set up network printer. (We all have our strengths.)</p>
<p>Our shop has everything from the aforementioned Mac Plus all the way to the new Core 2 Duos &#8230; running.</p>
<p>Oh, and the LaserWriter NTX is now upgraded to a IIg.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a lot of fun when someone emails they have a QuarkXpress 3 document and remarks how impossible it would be to deal with it and she says, &#8220;yeah, we can handle that&#8221;.</p>
<p>Mac Plus/SE</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jagshouse.com/macplus.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.jagshouse.com/macplus.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://oldmac.toddverbeek.com:8012/faq.html" rel="nofollow">http://oldmac.toddverbeek.com:8012/faq.html</a></p>
<p>As Servers:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ld8.org/servers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ld8.org/servers/</a></p>
<p>Mactracker:</p>
<p><a href="http://mactracker.dreamhosters.com/" rel="nofollow">http://mactracker.dreamhosters.com/</a></p>
<p>Nice article.</p>
<p>hylas</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Costello</title>
		<link>http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/design-careers/a-little-respect/#comment-26926</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Costello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment, Lisa. It seems like you did the right thing by just getting a new job. You can only explain so much to some people, then it's time to move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, Lisa. It seems like you did the right thing by just getting a new job. You can only explain so much to some people, then it&#8217;s time to move on.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Costello</title>
		<link>http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/design-careers/a-little-respect/#comment-26925</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Costello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You've got to be kidding me. Do they still make Ready, Set, Go!? 1MB?!? (I remember the jump from 512K) How did you get anything done?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve got to be kidding me. Do they still make Ready, Set, Go!? 1MB?!? (I remember the jump from 512K) How did you get anything done?</p>
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		<title>By: Hylas Ipsum</title>
		<link>http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/design-careers/a-little-respect/#comment-26919</link>
		<dc:creator>Hylas Ipsum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ppttttph.
In MY day we had Mac Plus's (1MB) and IBM PC Jr's, with Ready,Set,Go! v0.5 and a 15MB [!] DataFrame SCSI external hard drive (we were professionals after all), networked by PhoneNet/Coaxial and printing to an Apple LaserWriter NTX - and we LIKED it that way!

Quadra? with an 15" external monitor?, you were living in Shangri-La my friend.

;-)

Oh, you mean R-E-C-E-N-T-L-Y [?]

Nevermind.
My bad.

hylas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ppttttph.<br />
In MY day we had Mac Plus&#8217;s (1MB) and IBM PC Jr&#8217;s, with Ready,Set,Go! v0.5 and a 15MB [!] DataFrame SCSI external hard drive (we were professionals after all), networked by PhoneNet/Coaxial and printing to an Apple LaserWriter NTX - and we LIKED it that way!</p>
<p>Quadra? with an 15&#8243; external monitor?, you were living in Shangri-La my friend.</p>
<p>;-)</p>
<p>Oh, you mean R-E-C-E-N-T-L-Y [?]</p>
<p>Nevermind.<br />
My bad.</p>
<p>hylas</p>
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		<dc:creator>crawlspace&#124;media &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Irony Blog-ified</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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