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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lenen</title>
		<link>http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/web-design/ajax-usability-concerns/#comment-158592</link>
		<dc:creator>Lenen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 19:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paradigm shift is indeed a nice alternative and for me easier. The comment about SEO and AJAX is not making sense, if you build it right; every searchengine will appreciate it and take all your AJAX stuff for granted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paradigm shift is indeed a nice alternative and for me easier. The comment about SEO and AJAX is not making sense, if you build it right; every searchengine will appreciate it and take all your AJAX stuff for granted.</p>
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		<title>By: Car Hire In Reykjavik</title>
		<link>http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/web-design/ajax-usability-concerns/#comment-146852</link>
		<dc:creator>Car Hire In Reykjavik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! Ajax is a great technology and there is not doubt about that but its not a seo friendly language so i would suggest avoid it as far as possible.

Regards
Hermann</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! Ajax is a great technology and there is not doubt about that but its not a seo friendly language so i would suggest avoid it as far as possible.</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Hermann</p>
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		<title>By: Bart F</title>
		<link>http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/web-design/ajax-usability-concerns/#comment-146522</link>
		<dc:creator>Bart F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article. I think ajax should be used to ENHANCE the user experience.
Which means that everything should work if a user chooses to disable javascript or has a browser that does not support it.


Regards,

&lt;a title="
Open Source" href="http://www.opensourcepixels.com/"&gt;Open Source Pixels&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article. I think ajax should be used to ENHANCE the user experience.<br />
Which means that everything should work if a user chooses to disable javascript or has a browser that does not support it.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p><a title="<br />
Open Source" href="http://www.opensourcepixels.com/">Open Source Pixels</a></p>
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		<title>By: web programming</title>
		<link>http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/web-design/ajax-usability-concerns/#comment-123300</link>
		<dc:creator>web programming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AJAX is not at all search engine friendly so it should be avoided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AJAX is not at all search engine friendly so it should be avoided.</p>
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		<title>By: abhi web designer</title>
		<link>http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/web-design/ajax-usability-concerns/#comment-113106</link>
		<dc:creator>abhi web designer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 06:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! Thats really a nice post. Search engines can not read AJAX and its better if we avoid it if we are targeting search engines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! Thats really a nice post. Search engines can not read AJAX and its better if we avoid it if we are targeting search engines.</p>
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		<title>By: superjumbo</title>
		<link>http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/web-design/ajax-usability-concerns/#comment-84188</link>
		<dc:creator>superjumbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 06:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In SEO scenario Ajax is little bit tough. Great post, keep it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In SEO scenario Ajax is little bit tough. Great post, keep it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred333</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred333</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ajax is tough to use when you are taking about SEO. Great article though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ajax is tough to use when you are taking about SEO. Great article though.</p>
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		<title>By: navot</title>
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		<dc:creator>navot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 11:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to draw your attention to another alternative which is a paradigm shift for AJAX front ends. One should be aware that I am not, and do not pretend to be objective, never the less I believe that one can judge for himself.  Visual WebGui is an open source rapid application development framework for graphic user interfaces of IT web applications. VWG replaces the obsolete paradigms of ASP.NET in both design-time and run-time which were designed for developing sites, with WinForms methodologies, which were designed for developing applications. Thus enabling designer that was designed for application interfaces (WinForms designer) instead of a word documents (ASP.NET designer). This provides the developer with an extremely efficient way to design interfaces using drag and drop instead of hand coding HTML. Visual WebGui is an AJAX frame work that doesn’t expose logic, data or open services on client requests and therefore is not as vulnerable as common AJAX solution.. VWG presentation layer is de-coupled and instead of standard browser it can, and will run Silverlight.
NO!!! Visual Webgui is not!!
Not a component library – It is a complete revised approach to developing web applications. 

not a JavaScript generator – It runs on the server controlling the browser using a small static JavaScript kernel. 

Not for developing sites – It was designed to provide for developing IT web applications GUIs. 

Not a closed / locked-in framework – It has many extensibility features, which allow integration of legacy resources (ASP.NET or DHTML resources) and the development of custom controls and behaviors. 
 Worth a look at www.visualwebgui.com,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to draw your attention to another alternative which is a paradigm shift for AJAX front ends. One should be aware that I am not, and do not pretend to be objective, never the less I believe that one can judge for himself.  Visual WebGui is an open source rapid application development framework for graphic user interfaces of IT web applications. VWG replaces the obsolete paradigms of ASP.NET in both design-time and run-time which were designed for developing sites, with WinForms methodologies, which were designed for developing applications. Thus enabling designer that was designed for application interfaces (WinForms designer) instead of a word documents (ASP.NET designer). This provides the developer with an extremely efficient way to design interfaces using drag and drop instead of hand coding HTML. Visual WebGui is an AJAX frame work that doesn’t expose logic, data or open services on client requests and therefore is not as vulnerable as common AJAX solution.. VWG presentation layer is de-coupled and instead of standard browser it can, and will run Silverlight.<br />
NO!!! Visual Webgui is not!!<br />
Not a component library – It is a complete revised approach to developing web applications. </p>
<p>not a JavaScript generator – It runs on the server controlling the browser using a small static JavaScript kernel. </p>
<p>Not for developing sites – It was designed to provide for developing IT web applications GUIs. </p>
<p>Not a closed / locked-in framework – It has many extensibility features, which allow integration of legacy resources (ASP.NET or DHTML resources) and the development of custom controls and behaviors.<br />
 Worth a look at <a href="http://www.visualwebgui.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.visualwebgui.com</a>,</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Zuschlag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Zuschlag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 17:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Washington Post tabs. I would use animation only in desperation given it may distract or delay user action. What’s the point of AJAX if it slows the user down? 

The problem I see with the Washington Post tabs is that they don’t look like tabs. The labels are colored and underlined like links, so no surprise people expect them to work like links. Controls with distinctive effects should have distinctive appearances. In the case of tabs, the tab for the current panel should have the same background color as the panel (white, in this case). A border comprising the tab and panel is necessary so it appears as a contiguous object. Three-D visual cues can be used to make the current panel and tab appear to be in front of the others. In other words, a tab should look like a tab in a thick-client app.

That’s a general good rule of thumb: Copy the appearance of thick-clients controls. Most of these appearances have been tested and proven effective. Those that haven’t are at least familiar to many users. If you really think you’ve a better way than thick-clients (and surely there are better ways), then plan to test it. Don’t make it different just to look different.

Oh, and I’m suspicious about the use of tabs at all in this case. What sort of categories are those? How is a user supposed to know if a comic is “washingtonpost.com” or “web comic”? Aren’t there web comics that are also editorial? Where should a user look? I’d think the one thing the user knows is the name of the comic they want to read. I’d bet they’d be better off with a single scrollable pane of all comics sorted alphabetically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Washington Post tabs. I would use animation only in desperation given it may distract or delay user action. What’s the point of AJAX if it slows the user down? </p>
<p>The problem I see with the Washington Post tabs is that they don’t look like tabs. The labels are colored and underlined like links, so no surprise people expect them to work like links. Controls with distinctive effects should have distinctive appearances. In the case of tabs, the tab for the current panel should have the same background color as the panel (white, in this case). A border comprising the tab and panel is necessary so it appears as a contiguous object. Three-D visual cues can be used to make the current panel and tab appear to be in front of the others. In other words, a tab should look like a tab in a thick-client app.</p>
<p>That’s a general good rule of thumb: Copy the appearance of thick-clients controls. Most of these appearances have been tested and proven effective. Those that haven’t are at least familiar to many users. If you really think you’ve a better way than thick-clients (and surely there are better ways), then plan to test it. Don’t make it different just to look different.</p>
<p>Oh, and I’m suspicious about the use of tabs at all in this case. What sort of categories are those? How is a user supposed to know if a comic is “washingtonpost.com” or “web comic”? Aren’t there web comics that are also editorial? Where should a user look? I’d think the one thing the user knows is the name of the comic they want to read. I’d bet they’d be better off with a single scrollable pane of all comics sorted alphabetically.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Selikoff</title>
		<link>http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/web-design/ajax-usability-concerns/#comment-63726</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Selikoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 15:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Tara,

Thanks for the report.

SWFAddress (http://www.asual.com/swfaddress/) is a free library that is a great help in solving some of the usability concerns you have mentioned in your post, specifically linkability, searchability and site statistics.

Also, I like the way GMail and Remember The Milk highlight your last action, giving feedback that something indeed has happened, and allowing you to undo it.

-Nathan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Tara,</p>
<p>Thanks for the report.</p>
<p>SWFAddress (http://www.asual.com/swfaddress/) is a free library that is a great help in solving some of the usability concerns you have mentioned in your post, specifically linkability, searchability and site statistics.</p>
<p>Also, I like the way GMail and Remember The Milk highlight your last action, giving feedback that something indeed has happened, and allowing you to undo it.</p>
<p>-Nathan</p>
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