Comments on: The Designer and the Developer http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/ Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:53:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: PLR Articles - Monthly Private Label Articles http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/#comment-142205 PLR Articles - Monthly Private Label Articles Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:45:54 +0000 http://www.notesondesign.net/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/#comment-142205 <strong>PLR Articles - Monthly Private Label Articles...</strong> Private label rights articles is another form of outsourcing your articles writing to other... PLR Articles - Monthly Private Label Articles…

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]]> By: Designer Community Web Designers http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/#comment-111137 Designer Community Web Designers Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:22:01 +0000 http://www.notesondesign.net/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/#comment-111137 <strong>Do not be quick to offer big discounts to secure a web site design job....</strong> The web site design industry is one of the most competitive around. Try to advertise for web design services and you are up against a host of competitive suppliers, one cheaper than the other.... Do not be quick to offer big discounts to secure a web site design job….

The web site design industry is one of the most competitive around. Try to advertise for web design services and you are up against a host of competitive suppliers, one cheaper than the other….

]]> By: freddy http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/#comment-28410 freddy Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:26:00 +0000 http://www.notesondesign.net/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/#comment-28410 Great article. Designers for today's web need to think like developers as well (and vice versa) in order to stay afloat. I don't believe anyone who considers themselves a designer can get away with no knowledge of XHTML & CSS standards as well as the various common client side dev tools out there, such as jQuery and Prototype. The line between designer & developer has certainly been blurred in the last few years. And that's a good thing. Great article. Designers for today’s web need to think like developers as well (and vice versa) in order to stay afloat. I don’t believe anyone who considers themselves a designer can get away with no knowledge of XHTML & CSS standards as well as the various common client side dev tools out there, such as jQuery and Prototype. The line between designer & developer has certainly been blurred in the last few years. And that’s a good thing.

]]> By: Business » Comment on The Designer and the Developer by » Linkswitch … http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/#comment-28290 Business » Comment on The Designer and the Developer by » Linkswitch … Sat, 13 Oct 2007 13:25:26 +0000 http://www.notesondesign.net/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/#comment-28290 [...] Tim Berry wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptDesigners and developers often seem to speak different languages to one another. This article gives some great tips on how to communicate effectively and hopefully make your project work. […] [...] [...] Tim Berry wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptDesigners and developers often seem to speak different languages to one another. This article gives some great tips on how to communicate effectively and hopefully make your project work. […] [...]

]]> By: thinkerpool.com: » Linkswitch - Business Switch http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/#comment-28269 thinkerpool.com: » Linkswitch - Business Switch Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:16:12 +0000 http://www.notesondesign.net/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/#comment-28269 [...] Designers and developers often seem to speak different languages to one another. This article gives some great tips on how to communicate effectively and hopefully make your project work. [...] [...] Designers and developers often seem to speak different languages to one another. This article gives some great tips on how to communicate effectively and hopefully make your project work. [...]

]]> By: » Linkswitch - Business Switch Freelance Switch http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/#comment-28259 » Linkswitch - Business Switch Freelance Switch Sat, 13 Oct 2007 11:44:05 +0000 http://www.notesondesign.net/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/#comment-28259 [...] Designers and developers often seem to speak different languages to one another. This article gives some great tips on how to communicate effectively and hopefully make your project work. [...] [...] Designers and developers often seem to speak different languages to one another. This article gives some great tips on how to communicate effectively and hopefully make your project work. [...]

]]> By: Paul Alagna http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/#comment-16646 Paul Alagna Sat, 01 Sep 2007 04:29:35 +0000 http://www.notesondesign.net/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/#comment-16646 let me add one more. STAY CURRENT. this product of art and science, this medium we call the web changes by the hour. designers HAVE to look for that pop and sizzle that sells a web site, developers HAVE to find methods to get that message into scripts. As a developer, one colleague of mine keeps a journal of designs, or web pages he admires. as a developer I write notes about them. what I can do, how i think it might work, what I need to learn. weather permitting, we meet once a quarter to review. the deal is dinner for four for every new page I can bring to life. I can hear the squishing of boiling grey matter now. "didn't they hire you to perform that task?.." "aren't you responsible for your education?".. "why should the designer pay.." Truth of the matter is that we both get something from this. the wives get a dinner out, I get to focus my efforts, make bold promises, and reach a little higher, he gets his ART closer his wishes, and we both advance our careers. you didn't think the company really cared about your career did you? even if you own the company, each project demands more of the ho-hum, push this boulder uphill, get it done spirit from us NOT, i repeat NOT to be a beacon for your career. let me add one more. STAY CURRENT.
this product of art and science, this medium we call the web changes by the hour. designers HAVE to look for that pop and sizzle that sells a web site, developers HAVE to find methods to get that message into scripts. As a developer, one colleague of mine keeps a journal of designs, or web pages he admires. as a developer I write notes about them. what I can do, how i think it might work, what I need to learn. weather permitting, we meet once a quarter to review. the deal is dinner for four for every new page I can bring to life.
I can hear the squishing of boiling grey matter now. “didn’t they hire you to perform that task?..” “aren’t you responsible for your education?”.. “why should the designer pay..” Truth of the matter is that we both get something from this. the wives get a dinner out, I get to focus my efforts, make bold promises, and reach a little higher, he gets his ART closer his wishes, and we both advance our careers. you didn’t think the company really cared about your career did you? even if you own the company, each project demands more of the ho-hum, push this boulder uphill, get it done spirit from us NOT, i repeat NOT to be a beacon for your career.

]]> By: Michael Risser http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/#comment-14753 Michael Risser Thu, 23 Aug 2007 03:07:18 +0000 http://www.notesondesign.net/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/#comment-14753 As someone who is both a designer and a developer, I can attest to the truthfulness and correctness of these tips. But I would add one more. Work together to try to find a compromise. Often times from a developer standpoint a certain design element may not seem possible, while from a designer standpoint a developer's assertion may not seem reasonable. The truth is that if you work together, you may find a way to actually make that design element or developer assertion work, or you may even find something that works even better. Working together and listening carefully and objectively will, with time, make for a better team as each side learns a little more about the processes and requirements of the other. When a designer learns a little more about what can and can't be done, he/she will begin producing better designs, while the reverse is also true. Always remember, there is no room in a successful venture for an us against them mentality. The mentality should be one of team work. As someone who is both a designer and a developer, I can attest to the truthfulness and correctness of these tips. But I would add one more.

Work together to try to find a compromise. Often times from a developer standpoint a certain design element may not seem possible, while from a designer standpoint a developer’s assertion may not seem reasonable. The truth is that if you work together, you may find a way to actually make that design element or developer assertion work, or you may even find something that works even better.

Working together and listening carefully and objectively will, with time, make for a better team as each side learns a little more about the processes and requirements of the other. When a designer learns a little more about what can and can’t be done, he/she will begin producing better designs, while the reverse is also true.

Always remember, there is no room in a successful venture for an us against them mentality. The mentality should be one of team work.

]]> By: Ben Buchanan http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/#comment-13850 Ben Buchanan Sat, 18 Aug 2007 09:42:25 +0000 http://www.notesondesign.net/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/#comment-13850 One thing I'd add for designers: tiny text is not cool, especially not for body text. While it might look nice, it's horrible to read. While there's no specific rule about how big is "big enough", I'd suggest as a baseline "at least 30% bigger than the average designer seems to think is big enough" :) One thing I’d add for designers: tiny text is not cool, especially not for body text. While it might look nice, it’s horrible to read. While there’s no specific rule about how big is “big enough”, I’d suggest as a baseline “at least 30% bigger than the average designer seems to think is big enough” :)

]]> By: Notes on Design - Communication | Standardzilla http://www.NotesOnDesign.net/resources/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/#comment-13409 Notes on Design - Communication | Standardzilla Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:44:25 +0000 http://www.notesondesign.net/web-design/the-designer-and-the-developer/#comment-13409 [...] In the last of my series of guest posts on Notes on Design, I discuss relationships that often occur between the designer and the developer at some large organisations where you these might not be the same people all of the time. Head on over and have a read… [...] [...] In the last of my series of guest posts on Notes on Design, I discuss relationships that often occur between the designer and the developer at some large organisations where you these might not be the same people all of the time. Head on over and have a read… [...]

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